Let It Ride
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IMDB rating: 6.30 Plot: An average kind of guy who has a slight problem with gambling goes to the track, and mystically, it seems as though he can’t lose, no matter how he bets; and he has an incredible day. |
Actors: Dreyfuss Richard,Johansen David,Garfield Allen,Walsh Edward,Edson Richard,Schramm David,Roselius John,Walsh Joseph,Seymour Ralph,Dimitri Richard,Towers Robert,Comedy,Action,
Were women really a lower class?
Was just reading some women’s answers around here. Man, tell that to my mother or my grandmother, that they were a lower class and they would probably laugh at you.
Why is it only the (feminists) who feel so low?
You can only remove someone’s sense of worth if their weak minded and let you.
Why do feminists believe the deck must be stacked against the opposite gender for them to advance? I hear this justified in one way or another from pro-fems.
Why not be happy with your rights like everyone and just climb the mountain like everyone else and earn your keep?
What makes you think creating and riding the (Government Fast Track), you call equality is something respectable?
I never met them, but I like your mom and granny; my kind of folks.
Layla | Mar 14, 2010
It’s funny, because if you ask both of my grandmothers (neither of which were radical feminists, or "feminazis", as they are often called) would definitely agree that they WERE second-class citizens.
My father’s mother is a perfect example. She is a very intelligent, witty and engaging. She really could not find a place for herself in the era she grew up in (thirties and forties), because back then, although advances were being made, women were still seen as nothing more, really, than glorified maids. She was pressured to marry at seventeen, got pregnant at eighteen, and has been a housewife ever since.
And because of this, she has never been truly happy. Ever.
An example: In Quebec, Canada, women were not allowed to vote until 1940. Explain to me how that is not treating women like second-class citizens. I would love to hear it.
Anyway, I’m not saying that men are evil and should now be treated as inferior to women- not at all. I’m just saying that women were definitely treated as second-class citizens, and it is really only in the twentieth and twenty-first century that this has begun to change.
Asquared | Mar 14, 2010
If I know two Somalians who had okay lives, that doesn’t mean Somalia should be the next hot vacation spot and is problem-free.
mizkitymoon | Mar 14, 2010
I am right there with you! My gran was one of the strongest women I have ever known and one of the most genteel ladies at the same time. My aunts were also strong women and very ladylike as well. In my family being a female was not an excuse or something to "overcome". In my family all the females were college educated, mostly teachers but with an anthropoligist and a business women mixed in. Never in my life did I hear them complain or act like they were held back. In fact I learned from them that you stand up to life and take what you need, but you do it in a mannerly way. The priorities I learned from them–Country, Family, Home, Job in that order.
Funny how none of them felt a need for feminism. My Gran was born in 1902. My aunts in 1924, 1926, and 1932, since according to the feminists they had no way to get ahead and were horribly put upon, I wonder how in the world they managed, (not really).
Rebecca W | Mar 14, 2010
In order to be a feminist a woman must hate herself and hate being females, which is sort of ironic, but why do you think they must always go around screaching, "I are a stwong and independented womynzez!!!!!!!!" It’s a self-affirmation technique. You don’t see men running around saying "I be strong, I be a hard wyrkerz!!!!!" Why? Because we know that, and actually believe it. We don’t even think about things like that.
Women with low self-esteem fall into the trap of Feminaziism and are the easiest to indoctrinate. It’s like cults that go after disaffected, trouble teens, because they are the easiest to trap and brainwash.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzztard | Mar 14, 2010
It depends on what class they were born into. They weren’t given the same rights, but their actual class and status was high if they were born into rich families. It’s like saying queens are a lower class because they are women. That is not true, they are a high class. People mix this stuff up too often.
Nobody Important | Mar 14, 2010
"Man, tell that to my mother or my grandmother, that they were a lower class and they would probably laugh at you."
Really? Because my grandmother remembers having no access to birth control, then getting knocked up at age 16 and being forced to marry the father, who was physically abusive, and never finished high school. Yep, nothing with gender norms going on there. :/
It’s nice that your family members like to blatantly ignore that women could not get decent jobs outside the home besides waitressing and were discouraged from studying hard subjects in college until the ’60s, but reality disagrees. Women had to fight to get their own *bathrooms* in the workplace because men were, in fact, threatened by women’s presence in the workplace and so refused to share their bathrooms.
Coriolanus | Mar 14, 2010
Feminists do not believe that the deck must be stacked against the other gender. That’s stupid, and only a moron who doesn’t know what the hell they’re talking about would tell you that. The ONLY thing a feminist would believe is that men and women should have equal opportunities. That’s it. There is nothing more to it. It’s really not a difficult concept.
Were women really a lower class? Are you retarded? You do know that if you were born in the earlier part of last century you would not be allowed to vote, right? You would not be allowed to go to the college of your choice, as most colleges only admitted men, right? You couldn’t go into any career you wanted to. Want to be a doctor? Nope. Sucks for you. Want to be an engineer? Too bad. You can’t. The only job you could do was take care of your house and children. It doesn’t matter what you want. You wouldn’t have a choice. Maybe you could work as an office secretary… but only if your husband allowed it.
Kate W | Mar 14, 2010
Well
1) My aunt was forced to marry a man she hated when she was quite young. He abused her badly but she was forced to remain married to him and had nowhere else to go. A few years ago the same man beat her son into a coma.
2) My mother was in an arranged marriage to a man who turned out to be an abusive alcoholic who spent all the money she earned working on booze.
3) My grandmother was sick throughout her life but bore 15 children, more or less aginst her will because she had no access to birth control.
It’s not just feminists who feel this way. Ask your grandmother and mother, face to face and come back and give us the real answer. Don’t speak for them.
lemonsquire | Mar 14, 2010
My grandmother wanted to be a doctor, but she was only able to get into nursing school. Women were not allowed in most, if not all, medical schools. She had the grades and the knowledge, she just was excluded from premed and med schools because she was a woman. She made more money than my grandfather at times. However, she couldn’t have credit in her own name. She had to be an authorized user of my grandfather’s credit. She couldn’t have a bank account without him being a co-signer on that account, which meant that he could and did take money out of it whenever he felt like it. He, on the other hand, was able to have his own credit, he had his own bank account (HE didn’t need HER to co-sign), even though she was the one who paid the bills and was generally more responsible with money.
She had some land that she inherited. It was land (and a house) that had been in her family for generations, and she didn’t want to sell it. However, because Grandpa was her husband, he was able to sell it without her knowledge or permission. If she had wanted to sell it, she would have had to have his permission to do so.
My grandmother didn’t have the same rights as my grandfather did. Compared to him, she was a second class citizen, and she was not accorded the rights of a full adult. Women in that time and place were treated as subadults…they had more rights and privileges than children, but not as many as adult men did.
Even back when I was in high school, I was not permitted to take a second year of science in my first high school. Instead, I was forced to take Home Ec, and I was told that it would be far better for my future than any science class. It didn’t matter that I was very interested in science, and that I was very good at it. Nor did it matter that I’d been cooking since I was 8, and sewing since I was 10, and already had skills far beyond the very basic ones that were taught in that class. Nope, I was female, so OF COURSE I was going to be a housewife. When I transferred to another high school in another state, I did get to take a second course in science, in fact I had to in order to pass, but because I had been forced to take that stupid Home Ec class, I wasn’t able to take another math class as an elective. I could have USED that trig class, too.
I’m not surprised that your mother or grandmother haven’t told you about their problems with sexism. It sounds like you wouldn’t listen to anything that you don’t want to hear. I don’t know why I’m bothering to answer this question, either. It’s not like I can reach level 8, I don’t need answer points.
Lynn Bodoni | Mar 14, 2010
For a boy i’d go with Jameson, i like it way better than Chase. But in the end its your choice right? I love your children’s first names they are so cute together!! Best of luck with your twins!! 
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